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When Boomers Work for Gen X and Gen Y

11:52 AM Monday September 8, 2008

Tags:Generational issues, Managing up

Recently some of my Boomer friends have been venturing into new companies - ones founded and run by members of Generation X or Y.

One friend told me this story: his wife, a Boomer, decided to go back to work recently and found a great job in what looked to be a very interesting company. On her first morning, she called her husband in a panic - she was in the office (at 8:30 am) and the place was deserted - not a soul in sight! Turns out her new colleagues were mostly Gen Ys - who, as I've written in the past, often operate under the "what is it with you people and 8:30 am" rule. Get over it.

Another Googled the company she was planning to join and found articles that she summarized in a note to me as being about "having tattoos in the workplace and playing Wii and Guitar Rock in the office." She was rattled. "I wouldn't recognize Wii if I saw it and tattoos aren't on my short list....hope I fit in." I quickly wrote back to warn her that it was called Guitar Hero - don't embarrass yourself now!

And what to wear? One friend went in to meet some people in her department and was told by a Gen X'er to ditch the suit and wear flip flops.

Okay, X'ers and Y's: we would love to be part of the great companies you are founding and running. But please meet us halfway on some of the issues:

  • Most of us don't have tattoos or flip flops, nor do we want them. We have begun to notice a few instances of sagging skin and understand that a tattooed flower today could look like a flop tomorrow. And our feet are cold.
  • Many of us haven't played Wii or Guitar Hero - our kids were the wrong age to catch those trends. But we can play a fierce game of Donkey Kong. And, if you give us time, we'll get into the others, as well. Be warned, we love to win.
  • Ditching the 8:30 thing is a great idea - why didn't we think of it? But give us a heads up - we like some face time sometime.

Our closets are full of suits, our alarm clocks are set, and the car is gassed up and ready to commute in every day. But we're up for a change - and for helping you develop your ideas into great companies.

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Comments

As a Gen-Xer (B:1970) I would love to work for a company like that instead of the stiff (financial) one I work for now.

- Posted by Daryl 
September 8, 2008 5:33 PM

Eventually your company will want to secure a bank loan, or negotiate business with a large old-school company -- and you might find you need someone with the old-school skills and attire. Flexibility is great -- for everybody!

Also, on the subject of games -- if you want to put down the Wii, et al., and try something really fun, consider this:

http://www.tenthousandfencers.com/

- Posted by R. J. Lesch 
September 9, 2008 5:39 PM

As a Gen X (B. 1970), I resent being lumped into the ultracasual, laid back group. I tend to favor the way boomers do business with a few casual edges. Gen Y could benefit from watching their more senior co-workers (Boomers and Xers) and learning from them. They forget sometimes that they are still green behind the ears.

- Posted by Chunga21 
September 10, 2008 3:16 PM

The Gen X and Gen Y folks who think they have ditched the "what is it with you people and 8:30 am" rule are becoming the exception. Nothing like having children and having to bend to the day care rules, which means picking their children up by 6:00 pm (or earlier) or pay those "by the minute" late fees. It's amazing how many of them now work 7-4 when that happens.

- Posted by Lynn Gottlieb 
September 10, 2008 3:56 PM

Thanks for writing this, I'm a borderline boomer based on my '59 birth year -- I have seen multiple definitions of the boomer years vs. Gen X. I thought this article was going to be about how to interact with and succesfully engage with Gen X professionals, something I welcome insights about. It is refreshing to hear some thoughts pointing out that if Gen Xers want to benefit from what Boomers have to offer, and vice versa, we need to meet in the middle. In my mind, the first step is awareness -- each has to take enough interest in understanding each other's differences to get to the next step, which is finding our common ground.

- Posted by Thersa Bogart 
September 12, 2008 1:02 PM

Tammy Erickson's Across the Ages posts are by far my favourite on HBR - please keep them coming!

I'm a fully paid-up Gen Xer who applauds the Ys' "what is it with you people and 8:30 am" rule. Long may it reign.

- Posted by HelenB 
September 12, 2008 4:29 PM

That's funny. Good tone to this article!

- Posted by Anon 
September 14, 2008 5:35 PM

Hey!

The tone of the article is really funny!!

I am a young executive and a part time entrepreneur from India. Most of the people, I am working with are from Gen Y only. I’ve hardly had a chance to interact with Gen X colleagues at my work place. But all my interactions with Gen X ppl– in spheres other than work – have led me to believe that the Gen X ppl are too cautious and curious to change their ways as per Gen Y.

For example: Recently, I noticed a middle aged neighbor’s– around 38 years old –desperate attempt to work around a bit on his lingual skills. I was shocked to hear – Yo! Man! Wass up?  In response to a normal acknowledging “Hello”!

- Posted by Rahul Goyal 
November 26, 2008 3:33 AM

I work in an office with a mostly Gen-Y crowd. We don't start work until 10:30 and everyone is much happier because of it! And of course, the dress is casual.

And the work still gets finished... in fact, we probably do better with all that extra sleep and comfort we're given.

- Posted by Paul 
December 18, 2008 7:14 PM

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Tamara J. Erickson is both a McKinsey Award-winning author and popular and engaging storyteller. Her compelling views of the future are based on extensive research on changing demographics and employee values and, most recently, on how successful organizations work. Erickson has co-authored four Harvard Business Review articles and the books Retire Retirement: Career Strategies for the Boomer Generation and Workforce Crisis: How to Beat the Coming Shortage of Skills and Talent. She is with nGenera.

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